Partly continued from 'So you think you know all about Mormonism...': and other studies such as creationism on this web site.  There are also many very personal emails.

However, here are just a very few of the emails received and replied to:

Subject: Mormons.

Hi Bryce. I am an ex Mormon having served as both a Bishop and a Stake President.  I am a Stress Consultant and soon to be fully qualified as a Hypnotherapist and Psychotherapist.  I am offering to support those leaving Mormonism (or wanting to) free of Charge as my time allows.  I would be grateful if you would link my web page to your site....  I am an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church also.....  I live near London and have a consulting room there.  I will of course be happy to speak to anyone too far away from me on the phone if I can help. Thanks and regards, Alan

Hello Alan, thank you for your email.  I am so pleased you are now free of the Mormon Church.....  However I would not be able to link your web site to mine, I'm afraid.  I have read yours and also looked at the Universal Life Church web site.  I do not believe God gives salvation to all.  Narrow is the way to heaven but it is a broad way to hell.  There is only one way to God and that is through the real Jesus. Jesus said we have to be born again.  I would respectfully suggest you have moved from one deception into another.  I note the offer of the Universal Life Church of ordination with a smile. I have been offered ordination before but never without condition which makes it rather meaningless.  Ordination is meaningless anyway as that is Old Testament Law, we are now under Grace - thank you Jesus!  Bless you for your kind offer to help which I know was meant with the best intention.  Bryce

Hi Bryce, thanks for your reply but when I studied Mormon history and found it to be untrue I also looked into Christianity deeply and am not at all certain it is what most Christians think it to be.  I do however have respect for all religions and so do not wish to offend anyone.  Thanks for your attention to my request for a link and I do understand your reasons for not wishing to have the link. best wishes Alan

Hello again Alan, you have put your finger right on the spot.  I often say that Mormonism is from the pit of hell because they destroy your faith in main stream Christianity, then when you leave the Mormons there is nowhere to go.  I told the Mission President  I was leaving the Mormons and the reasons and he told me he had the same doubts too!  He agreed with what I said but then he said, "But where is there to go?"  When I left I looked for a church organisation (like the Mormon Church) but the real Church, the Bride of Christ, is not an organisation as the Mormons would have us believe, but a personal relationship with the Bridegroom Jesus.  The apostate church over the last 1700 years has tried to make it an organisation but it is not.  Therefore.... you are probably looking at the Harlot Church and shuddering at all the dross and gunge that has stuck to it over centuries but it is Jesus, the real Jesus, to Whom you should look. How true is the "routine of religion" words of Isaiah 29:13;

"These people come near to me with their mouth and honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.  Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men." 

Bless you, Bryce

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Subject: Entropy

I've been meaning to write for some time as I am an agnostic evolutionist. The second law of thermodynamics where things run down (entropy) does not apply to the “Big Bang”. The law here is “reverse entropy”. After the “Big Bang” things built up, they improved. Only after our earth evolved into the state we know now does entropy apply. Just thought you'd like to know. Francis J.

Hello Francis, what you say is very interesting, it sounds really impressive but (as an agnostic evolutionist) you cannot change the laws of science to fit the evolutionary model. It is impossible to prove this reverse entropy so it is just your own belief after all. HOWEVER; I do believe that, although God clearly works within His own laws, He can seem to change those laws at certain times. For example it may surprise you to know that I do believe in “reverse entropy” because reading the Bible it is clear this was the case before the fall of mankind. The curse God caused to come upon the earth was entropy – so you see, only God can change the laws of science. If you believe these laws have changed, be careful, you may end up believing in God after all! This will all be discussed and explained in Challenger shortly. Bryce.

Subject: I have recently left the church.

I started questionng the church when I felt obligated to Marry, fear was
taken in.  The men of the church wouldn't say anything to me after I told one
of the men of the church that I wasn't interested in getting Married.  I
became scared a lot of times. And a fear of doing wrong was always there.  My
parents joined and my sister did too.  My brother in-law will soon join.
They see the help that they have given them and I feel they feel obligated.
On the other hand they are happy.  It is just my son and myself.  I was
terrified to leave.  But I did.  I ended up go through Major depression and
now I am fine now.  I don't see any one of the church.  And I didn't go
through the temple because of a feeling I had.  I feel more at peace now than
ever before

Thank you,
I know I am not crazy now.
C.
 

Hello C

Thank you for emailing me and for your encouragement.  I had similar difficulties leaving the Mormons.  Many have left.  It is important that you get to know the real Jesus and become a real Christian.

Subject: My enlightenment.

Dear Mr Kaye, Just a note to say thank you for an informative site. Although I have believed there is a God who created me since I was about 10 years old because of the teaching of evolution I adopted the view, as I know many did and still do, that we evolved but by Gods hand. I now know this to be untrue thanks mainly to you. When my wife and I moved to [our village] just outside Lincoln, almost 17 years ago we only knew two people here but luckily they are good Christians and through them we now know many more and thankfully [our village] seems full of like minded people. Having had a number of discussions with other members of our fellowship group about the problems I was having with my beliefs concerning creation against evolution a friend and neighbour and his wife came over one evening and we had a good chat about my problems and the evening finished with him giving me your web address..... I down loaded it, printed out the results and duly read it and found the answers to all my questions. Thanks to you and our friends I now sleep nights and my faith, which has been tested dreadfully over the past few years, is now stronger than ever. Life is so much better when shared fully with Jesus. God bless you and keep up the good work. E & S

Hello E and S, thank you for emailing me.  I am always so greatly encouraged when I receive emails such as yours.  My whole web site was well worth doing if it has contributed to your salvation.  One day we will rejoice together in heaven! ..... It is amazing just how many preachers believe God used evolution but if there was death before Adam there is no need for Jesus when you think about it.  It is just another way of devaluing Jesus.  The Lord bless you both. Bryce

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Subject: Christianity, Islam - the whole lot. (Summary of 2 emails)

Bryce. I doubt that you will like what I am going to write, so I'll just write it and clear off. It's very simple; If you want to move people away from things like Mormonism, Islam or whatever, then there is one, and only one way to do it. That is to get every single person on earth to come together and admit, as one, that; "None of us know a damned thing about God." The reason? Because none of us do. And that's that. Religions, all of them, are man's attempt to explain what he does not understand. ALL of them are filled with hypocricy, idiocy, fraudulent claims, wild inconsistencies and bigotry on an unbelievable scale, and none are worth anything. They have, together, been responsible for millions of deaths, endless suffering and pain, not to mention the theft of personal funds and possessions due to idiotic things like so called 'tithing.' The Church, by any name, is the greatest and most hideous tragedy to befall mankind since he walked out of Africa.

History suggests that Jesus Christ was a real individual. It also tells us that he never once claimed to be the son of God, nor did he claim to have performed miracles. Belief or faith are indeed good things, but their nature has been horribly corrupted by those who claim to know about God. In rather the same way as radical Islamic fundamentalists claim to know that Allah is God, and everyone else is wrong. One of you must be wrong. You also claim to know about God. How is this? Have you spoken with him? Did he pop down and have a chat at some point? On the subject of hypocricy; to list the sheer number of hypocricies in the Bible and in the history of Christianity would take a book in itself, although I can rattle a few simple ones out if you'd like, there's plenty to choose from. As soon as someone tries to put a name to the faith, or explain it, everything goes pear shaped. "You're wrong!" "No, you're wrong!" "Want a fight about it?" You get my point. Religious intolerance is the single greatest disaster on our planet, and all those who believe that they know they are right are the cause of it. A few centuries of burning so called 'heretics' for making such ridiculous claims as; 'We are not the centre of the universe and we do go around the sun'... isn't exactly what I'd call religious tolerance. It's hypocricy - because the church has had to back-pedal and admit it's errors for hundreds of years now, ever since the masses were allowed to learn again after the Christian church burned the books and plunged mankind into the Dark Ages. Funny, I seem to recall the Nazis in Europe and the Taliban in Afghanistan doing exactly the same... Dean.

Hello Dean, thank you for your emails.... I have to correct you on your first two points - Jesus frequently said he was the Son of God, indeed he said more than once that He was actually God. He did not claim to have worked miracles, He did better, He actually did them - many! The difficult thing here is that we are talking with different values. The Bible tells us that the spiritual thoughts of a believer are foolishness to unbelievers. I speak spiritually. God is very much alive - I spoke to Him this morning. Your problem is unbelief, not lack of evidence! Therefore, what is the point in telling you whether I have seen God - you do not understand faith which cannot be understood by the world at large. Secondly, where have I said I was 'religious'? You ask what are the things on which we agree? I agree with many of your comments about the 'church'. I am not religious at all. It was the religious people of the time who screamed for the death of the Saviour. Religiosity with all it's pomp, dressing up, endless repetition, wearing head gear originating from the ancient fish god, leaves me cold. I am simply a Christian trying to be as near to those portrayed in the New Testament as possible.

I believe what Jesus said, that there is only one way to be saved, through Him - therefore Islam is a deception. My faith is about a personal relationship with Jesus. Yes, I hear His voice daily but not in the way you think. You say, "On the subject of hypocrisy.... to list the sheer number of hypocrisies in the Bible and in the history of Christianity would take a book in itself, although I can rattle a few simple ones out if you'd like, there's plenty to choose from." Firstly, I'm not here to defend that religious system called the church over the centuries and I would probably agree with what you have to say about that. You should be aware that many of those who claim to be Christians are just nominal Christians - religionists. They are the lukewarm ones whom Jesus will "spew out of His mouth". The "heretics" to which you refer, were probably the real born again Christians who dared to have a personal relationship with Jesus rather than go through a priest. Where does it say in the Bible about religious tolerance? Do also tell me about the hypocrisy in the Bible! I would make one astronomical point: The Bible was saying 3500 years ago that the earth was a ball suspended in space when man claimed it was flat. It was only about 500 years ago man proved the Bible correct. Bless you. Bryce

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Subject: Advice is probably the only free thing which people won't take

Dear Bryce, firstly I would like to respect and acknowledge the hard work and time that must have gone into your presentation on Mormons. Advice is probably the only free thing which people won't take. At the end of the day, every one is different, and every one has the right to their own personal beliefs with out being influenced and imposed on by other's such as yourself.

I am an A level Religious studies student, and I have come to the belief if people spent more time concentrating on the possitive things in life instead of focusing on the negative things and criticisms, our world would be a better place. you have no right to say mormon believers are cursed! they are generally just believing in something they want to believe in, just like many other religious groups! if you do not agree fine. this world is an amasing place, and I dont think there will ever be a universal religion. lighten up and realise if there is one true God out there, that he will love everyone equally. if I was you I would concentrate on spending time, enjoying your life, then spending hours debating on how mormon teaching's are false. Whether one believes in religion or not, whether one believes in this religion or that religion, the very purpose of our life is happiness, the very motion of our life is towards happiness I bless you Bryce, that you may find what ever truth you are looking for!! and that you may understand that until you are perfect don't expect every body, every religion and everything to be perfect. judging others faith will get you no where buddy!! lucy, 17, uk

Hello Lucy and thank you for taking the time from your studies to email me. I wish you every blessing in your studies and we will pray for you to achieve a good grade. Is this your final year or your first? Acquiring knowledge is one thing but recall is quite another and this is what we will pray for, for you (with your permission, of course). Thank you for your kind remarks, yes it took a long time to put everything together. We hear a lot about rights these days and yes, everyone has the God given right to follow any belief they wish, even atheism - which is a belief, of course. I saw a man once with a chain around his neck which read, “I’m not going to hell when I die.” Do you think that would make any difference whether he will end up in hell or not? I am not at all religious as you may have guessed. Religion has done a great deal of harm to the world. The religiosity of dressing up, reciting creeds and indulging in endless “vain” repetition is not what Christianity is about. Jesus explained in John chapter 3 that to be saved from the wrath of God, we have to be born again (the Spiritual birth). He also said He is the only way to God. He also commanded His followers to go out and tell the whole world this good news. Who am I to contradict Him? If Jesus is the only way to God then other religions will not save anyone. As for Mormonism, it looks good on the surface but they do not worship the Jesus of the Bible, therefore are not saved either. Should we say nothing but let all these people perish when they die?

Yes, there is one God out there who loves everyone equally and wishes all to be saved but alas not all His children behave in the same way. What makes you think we are on this earth to enjoy our lives? A born again Christian is here to glorify Jesus and to lead as many unbelievers to Him as possible. Jesus did not say go forth and enjoy yourself. Read 1 Corinthians 2:14-15: “The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him and he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment.” Sometimes we have to make judgments as we are fighting a spirit war. I will make a spiritual judgment now, that you are not born again as in John 3. Think whether you should be, or not?

I pray a blessing on you in Jesus’ name, that you will one day invite Him into your life and become born again, that you will be a great warrior for Jesus. I bless you with great spiritual discernment and good physical health. I bless you with the physical protection of Jesus and ask that He will place an angel at the side of you to protect you throughout your life. I bless you with holiness and pray you will know the difference between truth and deception, in Jesus’ name. Your ‘buddy’, Bryce.

P.S. Advice isn't the only free thing people won't take, there is also that gift of being 'born again' from Jesus saving you from God's wrath to come (John 3)

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Subject: Repent and be rebaptised you wicked man.

Brother Kaye, I know you and I know your works that are of the devil. How can you say such things about a Church you once loved? I beg you to RECONSIDER your ETERNAL STATE and REPENT of this madness that has overcome you. Apply to be re baptised a Mormon again and then you will be able to regain your valued PRIESTHOOD once more, if you do not you are heading for that fiery pit! Jeff.

Hello Jeff. Nice to hear from you after all this time..... I say these things because they are true and to warn others.... Bryce.

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Subject: Age of the universe.

You Christians are so illogical. Your arguments do not stand up to examination. You claim that God controls time and space. In doing so, light, when created, was infinite and instantaneous..... you claim (startlingly) that light is slowing down, and is currently at its speed of 186,181 mps. But the speed of light is a constant! E=mc2, where energy = mass X the speed of light, squared – the equation only works if the speed of light is a constant. The constant is one applied in a vacuum, such as that of space, and through which I, and my colleagues, can date the universe around us, and know without doubt that our universe is indeed extremely ancient. Hubble, in 1999 (I believe) photographed proto-planetary discs in motion within the Orion Nebula, with young stars at their centre and vast discs of dust and gas condensing into proto-planets over aeons of time. Photographic evidence of solar star and planet formation over billions of years. How do you therefore continue to claim that the Universe is only 6000 years old? It really is quite ridiculous. With respect, if you wish people to become Christians you should adopt a more modern approach to science. (Name withheld on request).

Hello... nice to hear from you again. At the risk of sending you into convulsions, I wouldn't start from here! You are assuming the universe had a beginning and indeed began with a 'big bang'. To ASS-U-ME is to make an ASS out of U and ME. The New Scientist reported on the 20th March this year that the Hubble Space Telescope photographed 10,000 galaxies spread across an area of sky one tenth the size of the moon. Doubtless you would say this disproves the Bible. I would say it demonstrated the glory of my God! - (Q.E.D?)

Regarding the velocity of light; I refer you to my web site and Setterfield's and Norman's thesis on the velocity of c. In 1981 Barry Setterfield published his thesis I believe. As you say, if a reduction of the velocity of c is demonstrated then accepted physical laws begin to change. So many other 'constants' would be affected. He says it would affect 17 physical constants in one way or another. The main reason you don't accept Setterfields finding, I suspect, is that dates obtained by radioactive decay would reduce by millions of years (see my web site) to just a few thousand years, thereby supporting the Biblical time scale and dispatching evolution back to Fairyland where it belongs!

You assume an ancient universe created with a big bang. Someone once said that a child came home to a bath full of water his mother had run for him so that he could take a bath.. He puzzled over it. Had the bath been run at almost boiling and been standing a long time (as you would assume) or had the water been in the bath only a minute or so because his mother knew exactly what temperature he would like it. There is no way of knowing unless you ask your ‘mother’. I did and He said that He created the universe pretty much as it is now! Never ASSUME!

Surely I do not have to refer you, of all people, to the laws of thermodynamics? The first law tells us there is nothing within the universe capable of bringing it into being. It must have been created by Something outside of the universe. It does not matter how long you say the universe has existed. The second law tells us that if the universe has always existed then it would be a mass of disorder with no energy left. It would be dead but as it clearly is not, it cannot be infinitely old but must have had a beginning and quite recently. You cannot have an explosion billions of years ago (chaos) resulting in our universe of great order. The third law? Well, you know that if you have an open system and add raw energy to it, it will not give you increased order. There is no order in this mythical “Primeval Soup” or the “Big Bang”. It’s scientific nonsense to expect such a thing to produce life! Charles Darwin said sunlight and electric discharges would produce a living cell - what fantasy! Energy and chance will not increase order. Finally Newton told us in his laws of motion that you cannot have an effect without a cause and no exceptions to the law of cause and effect have ever been observed. The “Big Bang” theory also violates the law of cause and effect by creating matter and energy out of nothing.

As you know science deals with theories and these can be modified or abolished as new evidence becomes available but the Bible has stood the test of time over many centuries and is never modified. No, I really would not start from here but instead start with faith in Jesus as your Saviour. Bless you, Bryce.

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Dear Bryce, You are very honest & brave to write what you have written in your web-site.  I am a Catholic married to Mormon. I love my wife with all my heart as I have done for 23 years. She (along with her whole family and friends) have tried for years to push me to become a Mormon but there are fundamental questions which they have not been able to answer for me. Some of their answers only result in more questions. They refuse to discuss questions about the Temple and in fact I believe I know more about Mormonism than they do. Your website raises similar issues which my wife and family refuse to answer or cannot answer. They resort to inviting the Bishop or Missionaries to our home and really are unable to answer any questions except with readings & excerpts from the Book of Mormon. I agree with you, Mormons (most) are lovely people but I sense from a few I know that they know also that things don't seem to tally but for fear of admitting they were wrong; fear of being shunned; fear of not knowing what next all keep them going to the programmed Relief Society meetings, priesthood, seminary, temple patrons, the list goes on. I believe that the Temple ceremonies and activities are foreign to vulnerable people but many who have attended the temple must feel let down and don't understand the implications as you have so clearly outlined. I would dearly love for them to see your site but I know that they will accuse me of being anti-Mormon. May God bless you and keep you. A.

Hello A, thank you for emailing me.  I agree with everything you say apart from one thing, I am a born again Christian and I have found the real Jesus many years ago.  It is not easy though, when one has been a Mormon.  I agree with you, it is difficult to get them to face up to the fact that they may be wrong.  Praying them out of it is effective.  The prayers of a righteous person are powerful and effective.  You don't say whether you are born again (John ch 3) or not.  When I was "called" (the Mormon way) to become .......... but finally said I was going to leave the Mormon Church the Mission President to whom I was responsible and a lovely man, was horrified.  He said, "You can't do that, you will take many of our people with you, their testimonies are based on you!"  What an admission!  You see they are in a cult, a church system and rely on it for their salvation.  They call upon more senior Mormons, for example the local bishop.  What he says is truth to them.  When I went through various points of doctrine with Ron Hyde he admitted he had doubts too!  He certainly had about the temple and thought much of what Joseph Smith and Brigham Young said, was a joke, but he ended with, "But where else is there to go?"  We had many debates.  The point to get over to them, if you can, is that salvation comes through the real Jesus, not through the rules and regulations of any church system. Bryce. 

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Subject: mormons
You must be one very sick person to write such rubbish about a church that only has one aim and that is to help and bring happiness and peace in to this sad and lonely world, You speak of all you think is bad about the church but not one good thing the church has done for the world in humanitarian aid ref :EARTH QUAKES, FLOODS, aftermaths of wars and other